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From Marine Corps Times...story and video. Hope the link works. It's a pretty good overview. http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/class186/part1-mainbar-a.php

I'll be giving this a mighty close read, thank you.

Same here, appreciate it ma'am.

I have the show on DVD. It's a little "kindler, gentler" than I remember OCS being, but I think just about everyone says that about when they went through.

One of the things they sortof gloss over is how destroyed alot of people's feet got, esp. those without prior service. One of Jim's roommates at TBS -- his feet were a mess.

Ma'am, just a question brought upon by curiosity. To what degree are males and females seperated during OCS?

My husband went through the last all-male company for OCC and TBS, (aka "All Balls") so I do not know and could not give you a good answer. When he went through, there was complete segregation. The rotor head Ma'am is the one who can answer your questions about how they run the companies at OCC and TBS. She's a "little" more freshly minted. Lt Tedd too can answer your questions about how they run OCC & TBS these days. Oh, and Ms Renee's husband Chris is also a Mustang officer.

Ha! At OCS there was one all-female platoon, but we did all the same training with the males. There were only 12 of us in the end. Not so fun keeping up with 60 member male platoons. The fall OCC company is the only one with females (at least when I went throgh). There are females at one of the PLC increments too. At TBS, the males and females are all mixed. There were 3 females in my platoon. We did everything the same as the males. Other than PFT, all physical standards were the same too.

You know, I always wanted to do that Tarzan course at OCC. Did they have scary BRM running it when you went through? 12:60. Yeah, that sounds fair to me. Are you WHINING now???

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Originally posted by MapleLeaf
Are you WHINING now???

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[:D][}:)][:D][}:)] I need practice

The read was awsome. Not somthing I think is meant for me but I respect OCS a little more now. But for some reason the video portion wouldnt work for me.

Thanks for the link, I enjoyed reading and watching the videos.

Yes, agreed, I respect and admire anyone who makes it through USMC OCS & TBS. When I was in Pensacola, there is no comparison to the Navy OCS and the OCS at Quantico. I cannot make any comment for how the other branches run their officer commissioning programs, as have had no first hand exposure. Add to that, the Marine newly commissioned Officers then head to Camp Barrett for TBS, and THEN onto their next MOS training station. Marines throughout their career will often get assignments not even close to their "real" MOS, which is why when people ask me what my husband does, I respond, "Whatever the Marine Corps needs him to do".

I am reviewing the video right now to see about carrying it in the story. What did you think Lt. Ky?

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Originally posted by GunnyD
I am reviewing the video right now to see about carrying it in the story. What did you think Lt. Ky?

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Is that story or store there Gunny? Yeti aka Smart@ss

I think the video does a good job. I have a copy of it. My parents really appreciated it too.

The 2nd increment summer session has females for OCS. PLC/NROTC(6-week)

I dont remember weekends off with steak dinners and nice hotel rooms when I went to bootcamp, must be an "O" thing[;)]

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Originally posted by GunnyD
I am reviewing the video right now to see about carrying it in the story. What did you think Lt. Ky?

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Is that story or store there Gunny? Yeti aka Smart@ss

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I thought Gunnys didn't make mistakes? What is the plural of Gunny? Gunnies????

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Originally posted by proachbass91
The 2nd increment summer session has females for OCS. PLC/NROTC(6-week)

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Not always. Female classes are based on "needs" just like everything else in the Marine Corps. Some years both summer increments have females. The fall OCC class does too. But out platoon was less than 20 strong (we commissioned about 12).

Question: My daughter is on this track (about to start freshman year with NROTC - Marine option s-ship). She is currently a Pfc at 29 P finishing MCCES. What happens to the ladies who don't complete OCS/TBS? Do they head back to the fleet as enlisted? [Sarah is highly motivated, but "stuff" happens.] I am guessing if they suffer an injury they are dropped back like in Basic? [She says she'll be home 9 August and will be discharged 11 September for purposes of being a midshipman at Ohio State.]

It's all "case dependant." We had 2 priors that attrited and were then out of the Marine Corps. Once got hurt, and was allowed to go back to her enlisted job. It depends on how hurt you are though. When I went through they'd medically drop you for just about anything. The new CO is a little more lenient about keeping light duties for a little while longer. If you're medically dropped, again depending on extent of injury and if that was the only cause of your being dropped, there is often the option to return to OCS once you're healed. One of our candidates was a "retread" (she had completed 9 of the 10 weeks, was medically dropped and then came back -- thing is you have to repeat the WHOLE thing). There are only 1-2 classes/year that take women, so the down side is that she'd have to wait a long time to return. I know of one prior to attrited during TBS. At that point, you're a commissioned officer. If you do something bad enough to screw up and loose your commission, you're out of the Marine Corps. If your hurt, you sit in what's called "Mike Company." I know of a few Marines who served their entire contract being broken there.

"It depends." is the answer to almost every question in the Corps! Even the old saw about how every enlisted Marine must attend Marine boot camp has an exception!

I wish Sarah the best of luck with it. Is she going to do the PLC course during college?

Mapleleaf ... several times I looked at the PLC "versus" OCS thing (mostly back when my son was headed that route) and it's still not clear in my head. From what I can tell, the NROTC program uses OCS the summer after the Junior year in college. I may have this all confused, but she'll do the standard program. She talks about the aviation option, but I know that's "not unusual" at this point. She would have picked 0311 if they'd let her. [I wouldn't have "let her".] Amazingly, Daughter 2, Laura (they are fraternal twins, very unalike), is just back from orientation at Ohio State. The thing she talked and talked about was the NROTC program. She was VERY enthused. My jaw dropped when she said she wanted the Marine option ... I thought she was thinking of just trying NROTC a bit to "see how it is", but she sounds committed to following through. The thing is, she blew out her knee bad playing soccer a few years ago, had the ACL reconstruction with major damage to her cartledge as well. She never recovered from that really. She was always the athlete in the family but now can't run like she could. I don't know to what extent conditioning can get her back, but she's working on it. So, we'll see how this goes. I talked to her about making her own choices that she felt was right for her and not trying to live up to "expectations" of others or trying to "keep up with Sarah" etc. I hope this sinks in, but the NROTC program does sound like it has a lot of positives going for it. She may decide after a few times pushing in the mud that it's not her thing, dunno. I want her to understand that's "OK", though she shouldn't quit after minor adversity etc. A fine line to walk. I have one of those "U.S. Marine Corps - Marine Dad" license plate brackets. I may have to get another something in four years ...? Sorry if I sound overly proud of my kids ... well, no, I'm not. Mixed emotions all over the place. Of anyone can clarify any misapprehensions I have about the OCS/PLC thing, please weigh in. Tx.