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"Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

Last post 01-26-2008 2:41 PM by GySgt K. 15 replies.
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  • 02-08-2007 9:53 AM

    "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    I can't believe this book hasn't been posted here already. This was the first science fiction book I'd ever read, and had an incredible affect on me growing up. You'll never find a more inspiring viewpoint on the subject of the military.
    "Just because patience is a virtue, that doesn't make impatience a vice."
  • 02-08-2007 11:14 AM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Kid, "Starship Trooper" is on the Commandant's Reading list and just about everyone here has read it......."No one quits, everyone fights".
    Semper Fidelis,
    "Huey Bubba & Co-bro"
  • 02-08-2007 11:31 AM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    That line's from the movie, not the book. Don't get me started on the movie. I remember how outraged I was, watching it in the theater.
    "Just because patience is a virtue, that doesn't make impatience a vice."
  • 02-08-2007 11:36 AM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Yes - then so be it, and you will hear that phrase all over the Corps. 

    The Book is still on the Commandant's list. 

    My Kid read it in Science Fiction class in High School and said that the movie was different.  That movie came out a long time ago, when my kid was in High School in the early 90's or so.

    I also read it in High School too in a Science Fiction Literature class in the early 70's.

    Semper Fidelis,
    "Huey Bubba & Co-bro"
  • 02-08-2007 1:14 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Yup it's on the List and the book is a heck of a lot better than the movie.

    If you like the genre, try Ender's Game.  It's on the list as well.

     

    Yeti

    Bill
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  • 02-08-2007 8:32 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Well here's a Marine who never read it mainly because I have never cared much for science fiction,but it sounds like this book is one I need to check out.

      Semper Fidelis,
         Chris

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  • 02-08-2007 9:11 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Well Chris, Heinlein, CS Lewis, Issac Asinoff, and other Sci Fi writers have alot of undertones in their writings of a political and religious nature.  Most of them study Theology.  SciFi allows them to express many things with out looking wierd, odd-ball, or a zealot.

    Heinlein was a USNA (1929) Graduate and Naval Officer - devoted socialist liberal converted then to become an advocate of Nuclear Power & Goldwater supporter - recruited Isaac Asimov and L. Sprague de Camp to work as Aero Engineers at the Philadelphia Naval Yard.

    Isaac Asimov was a devout Athiest, raised by very religious Jewish parents and he's a self-proclaimed Feminist and supporter of Homosexual rights.  Afraid of flying but loves to travel by ship, highest military rank US Army Corporal.

    Aruthur C. Clarke was RAF Flt Lieutenant during WWII, in charge of Radar Pickets for Battle of Britain, writes with a style of religious and technological clashing and harmonizing along with the paranormal.

    C.S. Lewis was wounded in WWI while serving as a Lieutenant in the Royal Army,  raised a Christian, became an Athiest, then became a Christian again, besides being a SciFi writer is also a leading Christian Apologist.  Al writings deal with Christian themes or sin, the fal, and the redemption.  as a very close friend of JRR TOLKIEN.

     

    Semper Fidelis,
    "Huey Bubba & Co-bro"
  • 02-08-2007 10:21 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Thanks Gunny. I've read some CS Lewis but I read it only a few years ago. I guess as a child my intelligence wasn't developed enough to pick up the subliminal messages in his writings but as an adult and hopefully a little more intelligent, I could see them.

    One writer that has really suprised me in the last 10 years with his books starting to have religious undertones is Stephen King. Seems I started noticing that after he was almost killed when hit by a van as he walked along a road in Maine.

      Semper Fidelis,
        Chris

    ___________________________________
    Watch your thoughts, they become words.
    Watch your words, they become actions.
    Watch your actions, they become habits.
    Watch your habits, they become character.
    Watch your character, for it becomes...your destiny.
  • 02-08-2007 10:26 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Other sci fi/fantasy authors of note I'd recommend:
    Harry Harrison (The Stainless Steel Rat series, The Hammer and the Cross, Bill the Galactic Hero)
    David Drake (The General series)
    SM Stirling (The Belisarius series)
    David Weber (The Honor Harrington series)
    Keith Laumer (The Bolo Universe)
    George RR Martin (A Song of Fire and Ice)
    Robert Jordan (Wheel of Time)

     

    "Just because patience is a virtue, that doesn't make impatience a vice."
  • 02-09-2007 12:58 PM In reply to

    • Qbert0351
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    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    The book is awesome and a must read. The movie was crap. The best adaptation on screen though was a Japanese anime back in 1988

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(OVA)

  • 05-23-2007 9:54 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    I own and have read all Heinlein has published.

    I understood from his essays in  Expanded Universe, The New Worlds of Robert A. Heinlein, that he

    was a Patriot.

    Been a while since I read it but Who Are the Heirs of Patrick Henry? best as I can remember

    reminds people of the cost of freedom and asks what has become of real Americans. 

     

    From a Obit:

     

    To the end Heinlein retained the libertarian notions on which he had
    been brought up, and believed that governments had no business to be
    meddling in the lives of individuals. Paradoxically, perhaps, he held the
    discipline of military life in some awe, and in his fiction, at least,
    had little time for incompetence or self pity.

     another obit

    Robert Anson Heinlein (Hine-Line) was born on Oct. 21, 1907, in Butler, Mo.,
    and grew up a fan of such classic science fiction authors as H. G. Wells
    and Jules Verne. He graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1929
    and remained in the service until 1934. He later did graduate work in
    physics and mathematics at the University of California at Los Angeles.

    He turned to writing full time in 1939, beginning with stories for the pulp
    magazines. "They didn't want it good," he said in a 1980 interview with The
    New York Times. "They wanted it Wednesday."

    He interrupted his writing during World War II, which he spent as an
    aviation engineer with the Navy. After the war, he wrote for major
    magazines, including The Saturday Evening Post, and then took up writing
    science-fiction novels, initially for young people and then, beginning in
    the 1950's, for adults.

     

    And to show his brass pair:

     

      As late as the '80s, at a symposium on President Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative, when Arthur C. Clarke cast doubt on the feasibility (not to mention the wisdom) of attempting to put an umbrella of safety against missile attack over the United States, Heinlein would become furious and inform Clarke that since he wasn't a U.S. citizen, he had no business butting into American affairs.  That would be the last occasion these one-time friends saw each other.

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  • 08-28-2007 9:22 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Add to this list Elizabeth Moon (Harris Sarano Series).  

    Ps.  She Served as a Lt of MarinesFlag before taking up a career as a writer.

    Semper Fi

    R. Deiters

    MSgt USMC(Ret).

    Semper Fidelis
    Richard
  • 01-08-2008 7:06 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Not on the Commandant's List anymore--couldn't tell you WHY, but it's not. I actually JUST got around to reading it, and it's on the nightstand now, but I'm already pretty engrossed.

    "Said preacher maybe you didn`t see me throw an extra twenty in the plate, there`s one for everything I did last night and one to get me through today"

    The kids: Ike & Maike

  • 01-08-2008 7:09 PM In reply to

    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    BamaMarine7276:

    Thanks Gunny. I've read some CS Lewis but I read it only a few years ago. I guess as a child my intelligence wasn't developed enough to pick up the subliminal messages in his writings but as an adult and hopefully a little more intelligent, I could see them.

    One writer that has really suprised me in the last 10 years with his books starting to have religious undertones is Stephen King. Seems I started noticing that after he was almost killed when hit by a van as he walked along a road in Maine.

      Semper Fidelis,
        Chris

    Oh, King has always had strong religious/spiritual undertones--Just look at "The Stand", Randall Flagg was pretty much meant to symbolize Satan--or the Antichrist (take your pick). Most of his novels are based around the old "good v. evil" and there is a lot of religious stuff in t \here, if you're actually paying attention, that is.

    "Said preacher maybe you didn`t see me throw an extra twenty in the plate, there`s one for everything I did last night and one to get me through today"

    The kids: Ike & Maike

  • 01-09-2008 3:46 PM In reply to

    • Razzy
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    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    This is one of my favorite books too, have any of you read Battlefield Earth. The book was excellent, though the movie shared names only with it. 

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  • 01-26-2008 2:41 PM In reply to

    • GySgt K
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    Re: "Starship Troopers" - Robert A. Heinlein

    Starship troopers is one of the best books written to capture the emotional feel of being a grunt.  The writer nailed it.  I read it in high school, and wasn't much impressed, but when it hit the Commandant's reading list I re-read it...in one sitting.  I was engrossed.  I highly recomend this book to anyone that has ever been in a ground unit.  It has the feel and gritiness of the line animals.  Excellent read.

     Gy K

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